04/12/2023 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

              HB 125-TRAPPING CABINS ON STATE LAND                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced  the next order of business  would be HOUSE                                                               
BILL NO. 125, "An Act relating  to trapping cabins on state land;                                                               
and relating to trapping cabin permit fees."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:50:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER moved  to adopt  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB  125,  labeled,  33-LS0497\Y,  Bullard,                                                               
03/28/23, ("Version Y"), as a working document.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:51:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR  JEPSEN, Staff,  Representative  Tom  McKay, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  on  behalf  of the  sponsor,  the  House  Resources                                                               
Standing  Committee,  on  which Representative  McKay  serves  as                                                               
chair, provided  a summary  of the changes  for Version  Y, which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Change  1:   Clarifies  that the  owner  of a  trapping                                                                    
     cabin would  have to authorize  the use of  their cabin                                                                    
     by other  individuals prior  to the  department issuing                                                                    
     another permit for their cabin.  (page 2, lines 15-16)                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Change 2:   Technical  change to allow  for consistency                                                                    
     with section 2 of the bill. (page 2, line 18)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Change 3:   Clarifies  the acceptable uses  of trapping                                                                    
     cabins  and  that it  may  only  be used  for  seasonal                                                                    
     shelter. (page 3, lines 19-20)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Change  4:    Grammatical  correction,  no  substantive                                                                    
     difference. (page 3, line 24)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       Change 5:  Reiterates that permit holders may not                                                                        
     reside at a trapping cabin  or on the state lands where                                                                    
     the trapping cabin is located. (page 4, lines 10-12)                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY  removed his  objection.    There being  no  further                                                               
objection, Version Y was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:53:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER moved  to adopt  Amendment 1  to HB  125,                                                               
Version Y, labeled, 33-LS0497\Y.1,  Bullard, 04/10/23, which read                                                               
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, lines 8 -9:                                                                                                        
          Delete " , except as authorized by the                                                                            
          commissioner,"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER spoke  to Amendment 1.   He explained that                                                               
he  supports  the bill  in  general;  however, he  expressed  the                                                               
concern that Version Y is too broad and could be misused.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY validified the concerns  brought up by Representative                                                               
Saddler and  agreed that  the committee  should not  enumerate in                                                               
statute the variety  of special conditions, such  as weddings and                                                               
funerals.  He removed his objection.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE objected  and questioned  trapping-related                                                               
activities,  such  as  using an  all-terrain  vehicle  to  access                                                               
cabins in  the summer for the  purpose of stocking it  for winter                                                               
use.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER voiced that his  intention had not been to                                                               
prohibit activities  related to trapping,  including provisioning                                                               
and  cabin maintenance.   He  voiced the  intention to  eliminate                                                               
uses  other   than  those  which  are   specifically  related  to                                                               
trapping.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE maintained his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:57:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  McCabe, Patkotak,                                                               
Rauscher, Saddler,  Wright, Mears,  and McKay  voted in  favor of                                                               
Amendment 1.  Representatives Dibert  and Armstrong voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Amendment 1 was adopted by a vote of 7-2.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:58:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER moved  to report HB 125,  as amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection,  CSHB
(RES)  was  reported  out  of  the  House  Resources  Standing                                                               
Committee.